Heavenly stalls
for horses of fire? :)

From a message by a Curious Questioner--
>CQ> Subject: Re: Pretribulation Rapture

>CQ> Don't ask me how I know this, but the birds fly in the first heavens,

Plural "heavens"?

>CQ> the constallations are in the second heavens along with many spirits,

Plural "heavens"? (constall? yeah, maybe they're in stalls... :)

>CQ> the Throne of God is in the third heavens.

Plural "heavens"?

>CQ> That is where Paul spoke of in his " I once knew a man that was taken up into the third heavens,

Plural "heavens"?

>CQ> I believe this passage in Matthew is talking about the first heaven.

Singular "heaven"? (Finally! grin. . . :)

"And he shall send his angels with a great sound of a trumpet, and they shall gather together his elect from the four winds, from one end of heaven to the other." (Matthew 24:31)

Although I tend to agree with the interpretation that the atmosphere is the 1st heaven, the cosmos is the 2nd, and the 3rd is above the waters; however, Paul may NOT have been referring to "the third heaven" in location, but in TIME! Notice that in Genesis 1:1, God created the "heaven" (singular) and the earth. Then a second heaven called the Firmament was made on the second day.

"These are the generations [plural] of the heavens [plural] and of the earth when they were created, in the day that the LORD God made the earth and the heavens," (Genesis 2:4)

The present GENERATION of heaven, the second heaven will pass away after all things are fulfilled and then there will be a future third heaven, the "new heaven" and new earth.

"Verily I say unto you, This generation shall not pass, till all these things be fulfilled. Heaven and earth shall pass away, but my words shall not pass away." (Matthew 24:34,35)

Do you agree that the "generation" spoken of in Matthew 24:34 has to do with the present generation of "heaven" of the following verse? Obviously Jesus wasn't speaking of a man's brief generation, since many generations have indeed passed since he said those things.

>CQ> Can I have an Amen or do I get a Boooooo.

(Grrr... uh... GRACE be with your heart for Jesus' sake. Amen. :)

Remember that Jesus is the Lord and look up! --Richard