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>CQ> God never cared much for the Cainites and its is evident in Zechariah 14:21, and in that day there shall be no more the Canaanite in the house of the LORD of hosts.
You're mixing terms. Cainites were descendents of Cain, the first man born of Adam and Eve. Canaanites are descendents of Canaan, the son of Ham, the younger son of Noah, who was from Seth, not Cain.
>CQ> Cain, the father of the Canaanites...
Canaan the son of Ham, was the father of the Canaanites.
>CQ> Kenites are descendents of Cain. Check out the word.
Are residents of "Caintucky" (aka. Kentucky) descendents of Cain? Do you think that all "Americans" are physical descendents of the Italian navigator, Americus Vespucius (1451-1512)?
The genealogy of Adam's son Cain ended with the flood in the days of Noah, who was descended from Seth. One of Noah's sons, Ham, had a son called Canaan, whose descendents are called Canaanites. "Kenites" are listed separately from the "Canaanites" in Gen.15:19-21.
It is interesting to note that Mary the mother of Jesus was called
blessed "AMONG women", but Jael the wife of Heber the Kenite was called
blessed "ABOVE women". (refs. Luke 1:28,42 & Judges 5:24)
We ought not to spend overly much time with genealogies, For it is a good thing that the heart be established with GRACE; not with meats, that have not profited them that have been occupied therein.
"Wherefore henceforth know we no man after the flesh: yea, though we have known Christ after the flesh, yet now henceforth know we him no more. Therefore if any man be in Christ, he is a new creature: old things are passed away; behold, all things are become new." (2Cor.5:16,17)
Grace be to them that CHERISH the Lord Jesus Christ. Amen. --Richard
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The "sons of God" of Genesis 6 certainly were not men in the same sense as the sons of Adam, for they are of different "flesh." They were obviously the people that the ancients worshipped as "gods", come down "in the likeness of men."
"GOD standeth in the congregation of the mighty; he judgeth among the gods." - "I have said, Ye are gods; and all of you are children of the most High. But ye shall die like men, and fall like one of the princes." (Psm.82:1,6,7) They were "like men", but yet not. The historical context is when the foundations of the earth were knocked out of kilter when the flood HIT. ([Conjecture:] The earth reeled wildly, and swung outward in its orbit, making the year longer than 360 days now. :)
>CQ> In Gen 1:2 and Jer 4, the earth became void, this is when God ended the first earth age because of Satan's fall and his deception of the sons of God.
Remember that Jesus is the Lord and be not deceived. The "old world" was from the beginning of the creation until the destruction of the whole earth by the flood in the days of Noah, who was a preacher of righteousness. That old serpent, called the Devil, and Satan, was in Eden, the garden of God, and fell from grace because his heart was not right in the sight of God, and he was cursed to go on his belly.
The Lord Jesus said, "But from the beginning of the creation God made them male and female. For this cause shall a man leave his father and mother, and cleave to his wife; and they twain shall be one flesh: so then they are no more twain, but one flesh. What therefore God hath joined together, let not man put asunder." (Mark 10:6-9)
We see there that the Lord defined the BEGINNING of the creation as including Gen.1:27 and Gen.2:24. Therefore the creation week included the "beginning" of Gen.1:1. There was no day or age before the first day; and that "day" was defined as "evening and morning." That day began with the creation of the heaven and the earth with DARKNESS upon the face of the deep, which was the EVENING of the first day; and when God said, Let there be light; the MORNING arose, and there was light. And the evening and the morning were the first(echad) day.
The Hebrew word "echad" signifies a UNITY, side-by-side joining, as in, They shall be one(echad) flesh. (What therefore God hath joined together, let not man divide asunder with "gap" theories. Marriages should not have a "gap"/division but "agape"-unity-of-love! :)
When the last Eve (Night) and the last Adam (Day) are come together, the Day comes "in unto" the Night, and there will be light WITHIN: And then: "there shall be no night there..." and again, "the city had no need of the sun, neither of the moon, to shine in it: for the glory of God did lighten it, and the Lamb is the light thereof." (This is a great mystery, but we speak of Christ and the church. :)
Therefore there ought not be darkness, but Light always within thee. Grace be to thy heart in the love of Christ. Amen. --Richard
(3) Reprint of reply to a Curious Questioner--
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>>QU> ... In Jeremiah 4:31 he is speaking about Jerusalem (Zion) and the reference to a "woman in travail" is obviously a reference to Israel. (see Revelation 12).
>CQ> HI. Also note the Hebrew words in Gen 1:2 and in Jer 4:23 (the tohu va-bohu) is the same in both verses.
"without form, and void" (Gen.1:2p) (Heb. thohu, va bhohu :)
"without form, and void" (Jer.4:23p)
>CQ> Jer 4:25 indicates that there was no man left but there had been because of the cities mentioned in v.26.
It was prophesied in Jer.4:7 that the cities would be "laid waste, without an inhabitant." Jer.4:26 is simply the vision of the day of the Lord: "For thus hath the LORD said, The whole land shall be desolate; yet will I not make a full end. For this shall the earth mourn, and heavens above be black: because I have spoken it, I have purposed it, and will not repent, neither will I turn back from it. The whole city shall flee... every city shall be forsaken, and not a man dwell therein. And when thou art spoiled, what wilt thou do?" (Jer.4:27+)
>CQ> When the Second Advent happens, there will still be man here.
There will not be a man dwelling in those cities of Jeremiah 4.
>CQ> The deception of the dragon in the first earth age (in Rev 12) drew a third of the children away from God. Them being cast to earth refers to them having to come thru this earth age.
The "third part" mentioned in Rev.12:4, comes after the woman was with child (Rev.11:2) and before she brought forth the man child.
>CQ> Research the word 'earth' in the greek.
(Research the word "earth" in the english. :)
>>QU> In Rev 12:1-2 it does refer to Mother Israel and the birthing of the Christ Child.
>CQ> V.4 the deeds of those who rebelled against God in the first earth age caused God to end that age and send those souls thru this age, born of flesh...
Again, the woman was already with child before verse 3, and the dragon is seen standing "before the woman which was ready to be delivered, for to devour her child..." in verse 4. The child is brought forth and caught up unto God and the woman flees to the wilderness (v.5,6) and then in verse 7 "there was war in heaven" and the dragon (that old serpent, called the Devil, and Satan) gets cast out into the earth and the devil's angels with him. And the devil appears on the earth having but a short time (1260 days).
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>CQ> The third that followed satan before will perscute the Child of the woman in this age.
No, "her child was caught up unto God, and to his throne." (v.5) The woman flees from the persecution, to the secret city of refuge before prepared for her, with "corn of heaven" for her nourishment!
>CQ> I'm sure at the Second advent, the mountains and hills will again move lightly and the cities will again be torn down and the earth put back on it's proper axis, thus re-instateing the climate of the first earth age in which the behemoth lived [g].
Behemoth was contemporary with Job, AFTER the days of Noah. (grin :)
>CQ> There was no man in J4:25 as they had been removed but as v.26 there had been there because of the cities.
The cities were "cities of Judah" (Jer.4:16p).
>CQ> God didn't create the earth void and without form but it became that away after satan's fall.
As originally created it was mud (water and earth) in darkness, as we have before pointed out. As for that old serpent called Satan, he had been in Eden, and was perfect from "the day" that he was CREATED, "till iniquity" was found in him. Therefore he was created after the first day, but before the day that sin entered into the world. The expression "that it was good" is MISSING on the second day. (The 2nd day of the week is called Monday, the day of the "Monday Blahs!" :)
>CQ> Some of II Peter 3 deals with the first earth age.
The "world" that perished in 2Pet.3:6, is called "the old world" in 2Pet.2:5. Be not deceived. The world after the flood of Noah is the "present evil world" (Gal.1:4p) that the Lord Jesus Christ gave himself for our sins to deliver us from. The "world to come" will be after the return of the Lord with power and great glory.
>CQ> Look closely at v.5,6,7 it shows a previous earth age, a current earth age and v 13 shows a third age.
(1) The "old world" (2Pet.2:5p), (2) the "present evil world" (Gal.1:4p) and the third is (3) "the world to come" (Matt.12:32p).
In the dissolution of the world in the days of Noah, there was no dry land that was not covered, and all in whose nostrils was the breath of life PERISHED, except Noah and them with him in the ark. The Lord Jesus Christ is the ark of salvation in these latter days. Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ and thou shalt be saved! (Are you saved? :)
Grace be to all that love the truth for Jesus' sake. Amen. --Richard
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